"Ingenuity doesn't cost money but it certainly has the potential to make some". oooeeerrrr that sounded a bit philosophical coming from me.

Its just a bit strange that you have come on here with this brilliant idea want peoples comments yet won't divulge anything about the brilliant idea!!!

The bar market in the UK (and Lanza) is completely saturated - the only "new" ideas in the UK have been new products - like the minging irish "orange" ciders, alcopops, chain bars like all bar ones etc and budget boozers like weatherspoons. None have exactly been reinventing the pub.

Some of these have been exported to Lanza some haven't. So I guess we will just have to wait and see when you open up - do let us know!

Hello Foodie

Apologies for the misunderstanding but my question was relating to the pros and cons of living between the 2 islands and what peoples opinions were on that? Perhaps I should have made this clearer. I mentioned my intention to set up a business to avoid the 'bad unemployment' statistics backfire and I also that the business would be somewhat 'different' as to what is on offer again to avoid 'Oh not another English man thinking he can come out here and open up yet another English bar (with chips) and wonder why it is not successful?' etc etc comments. To be frank. I am hardly likely to come on this forum and openly share a business idea with one and all only to find on my arrival that someone has beaten me to it!!!! I have already been forewarned that any successful business in Lanzarote is very likely to be quickly copied.

Apologies once again foodie for the misunderstanding. I will of course let everyone know when I am up and ready to go.

I know, it's snowboarding

But Chris presumably as a successful businessman you will know all about Porters forces......?!

So its only an idea now?! Initially it sounded like you were ready to go!
Once your business is up and running then copycats will emerge straight away so sounds like your business will only run for 6 months then?

Diff between Lanza and Fuerte? Lanza more densely populated and more brits.

And a much more developed infrastructure, Foodie.

chrisb as stated that his business is still in the planning stage, the idea is there but yet to be realised and I'm sure chrisb knows the pitfalls of a new business and sounds intelligent enough to know that if its successful his concept will no doubt be looked at closely by others.

Like many business in Lanzarote they too started with what they thought was a 'new idea' and for some it worked and for others it didn't some simply didn't have a clue how to run a business and others thought that the touring public would pile through the doors because they offered a cheaper deal then 'Fred 2 doors down' I'm sure chrisb will realise his business venture and hopefully he will 'keep it real' and good luck to him..Lanzarote could do with more enterprising ideas me thinks.

I agree deepsix, there's plenty of room for people with different/new ideas to come in....
People numbers do appear to slowly be increasing so if it continues things can only
get better, and offer more chances...

cheers
Keith

PORTERS FORCES:
1. Bargaining power of customers 2. Threat of new entrants 3. Threat of substitute products 4. Bargaining power of suppliers 5. Competitive rivalry within an industry.

Did you also know "foodie" that there is a 6th one? I believe its something like; "Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist" but I'm sure I don't need to tell you that!

Thank you Keith and Deepsix for the positivity, it fills me with confidence to know that there are people in Lanzarote who can actually read

I agree with Kath. Different is is good. We always avoid British/Irish pubs, particularly those advertising live music - there are only so many times in your life you can listen to Lady In Red and Knocking on Heavens Door without your ears bleeding.

When Rome and all that.

Lanz fan totally agree!

Chris - nice googling - and as you suggest if your idea is so easy to copy then is it all that different in the first place?

Agreed Walker - half decent infrastructure, and smaller than fuerte - but then don't see how this helps Chris!!

If he wants to do holistic retreats for Germans than Fuerte prob better....?!

If he did a decent anglo spanish crossover gastro bar place - ie not a restaurant not a bar, using local products and have decent service then I would move in...........

You are almost there on the idea foodie. i am impressed. I will reserve the best seat in the house for you then you can come back on here and slag me of proper

Foodie, the fact that Lanzarote is more populous, and the main resorts are bigger, is likely to generate more customers. If the business really is different, then he won't have the problem of competing with more similar places in a bigger resort (eg 5 chinese restaurants instead of 2), and since it's much easier to go from, say, Playa Blanca to PDC for a night out than from Corralejo to Caleta, he can draw on an even bigger customer base which wants that difference.

As for amenities/services, he and his family (if applicable) have to live whereverre, and the basics of shopping health care etc are better in Lanzarote than Fuerteventura, again because of the size of population.

Haven't got the message Chris ... if I can be of any help just shout!
Cheers
Phil

mmmhhhh curious missing message. I don't see it in my 'sent messages' either so it will remain a mystery??? Nothing can really be achieved until I get there anyway (within 6 months) so will give you a shout then or before if I need to know anything prior?
Cheers Phil
Chris