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 Post subject: Islas Airways announces 'temporary closure'
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:48 am 
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Inter-Island airline, Islas Airways, has announced that it is to close temporarily and that it will operate in the future only as a charter airline.
http://www.lavozdelanzarote.com/article73430.html

Considering the enormous subvention involved in inter-island flights, perhaps it is time to recognise that the current system of subsidising resident passengers rather than the route itself is not working and that it is, in fact, counter-productive?


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 Post subject: Re: Islas Airways announces 'temporary closure'
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:57 pm 
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Just read on another forum the reason for this is crews have not been paid for FOUR months so are refusing to work and can´t get paid until the Spanish Govt. pay the outstanding 12 MILLION euros it owes in subsidised flights! :shock: .........wonder how long Binter Canarias (the only other inter-island flight provider) can wait for their money? :?
Rubber dinghy anyone ???? :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Islas Airways announces 'temporary closure'
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:00 am 
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Ryanair have now expressed an interest in inter-island flights if the government lifts its restrictions (whatever that means):
http://www.lavozdelanzarote.com/article73477.html


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:33 am 
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Oh God no.....not Ryanair......anyone but PLEEEEASE.........Limited expensive luggage...add-ons---pre-printed boarding cards....limited size hand luggage.....mad scramble for seats.....extending scheduled flight times so they can play that awful jingle on landing......and just what they were looking for ...another reason to hold the Canaries to ransom over landing fees etc......and if it isn´t profitable drop the route like a hot potato..........just what we need. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Islas Airways announces 'temporary closure'
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:44 pm 
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It means that, no, Ryanair will not operate InterIsland services unless the Spanish government pay them to land, pay them to accept passengers, pay them to accept fee's paid by passengers, pay them........................

ie:
Pay or no go,

BUT even more publicity with no commercial outlay!

Oh 'eck, even I'm doing it now! :wink:

Maybe if an airline was allowed to operate commercially and claim back the "residentia travel reductions", then someone, maybe Air Nostrum would move in and take a look.

or

Even Binter, yes, I'm a card holder would have to lower fares for the masses but would not be forced by legislation to keep fares artificially low to enable the Canarian governments "pay back" policy to force through lower residents fares.

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 Post subject: Re: Islas Airways announces 'temporary closure'
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:56 am 
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The real problem is the way that the subsidy is applied as it makes inter-island flights prohibitively expensive for non-residents, but very economical for residents. In other remote regions of your Europe, the subsidy is applied to the route rather than the passenger, so all travellers benefit.

There has always been a lot of local politics involved in the inter-island routes and that is why no one else enters the market.
The stories that I heard were that anyone attempting to enter would suffer last minute paperwork delays and end up with planes grounded for weeks or months at a time.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:17 am 
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Unfortunately subsidising the route won´t work......you will end up with a plane full of Northern European tourists with huge back packs taking the seats of the locals who need to use the service.......same thing happens with BonoBus tickets on the 60 and 61 buses......frequently as a local I am forced to wait for another bus as all the seats are taken by holidaymakers(and their backpacks) so where is the benefit to me who needs to use public transport to and from work???
A tourist doesn´t risk getting the sack for being late...after all they are on holiday and have no time constraints...whereas locals do.
I think you will find these other remoter regions do not have as many tourists as the Canaries(if any).


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:11 pm 
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Really my point is that the subsidy has facilitated the profiteering and inefficiencies in Binter.
The local consumer does not feel the ill-effects of the overpriced virtual monopoly of Binter because of said subsidy, and therefore does not complain. However it is cheaper for a foreigner to fly between Milan and Lanzarote than between Gran Canaria and Lanzarote.

The islands lose a lot of tourists because it is prohibitively expensive to use the inter-island connections. Lanzarote may be well connected with the UK, but a couple coming from France may need to spend an extra €400 just to connect from Las Palmas.


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 Post subject: Re: Islas Airways announces 'temporary closure'
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:44 pm 
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If you think that's bad, look at the price per mile by sea from PB to Corralejo.


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